This is the author podcast

Listen to us chat about what it was like to record our audiobook! This may well be an alternate career for us. We got to wear comfy clothes, drink tea, read books and spend a week together in San Francisco. It doesn’t get much better than that!


Messy Jesus Business Review

“This book fills a gap that I didn’t know existed.” Where else do you get such a marriage of Christian ideology and child psychology? In what other parenting books will you find the nonviolent principle of “The Myth of Redemptive Violence” paired with psychological concepts in moral and cognitive development in children? It’s a holy, welcome juxtaposition.

RevGalBookPals Review

“Do you need a book that gently and effectively melds progressive Christian theology with the (non-Pinterest) realities of parenting? Are you trying to locate your own parenting practice somewhere between books that advocate spanking and books that suggest wine pairings with your overnight oats? May I suggest Bless This Mess…”